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John Doe
Post Re: Blog of a walking dead man trying to get it up.
on: March 24, 2017, 14:03
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not much grinding yet, yesterday I got the first hands in.
total is now at 750,64
sure was fun to lose a stack to some dude named jenni :)

I think I don't have camtisia anymore, but I haven't had time to find all my back ups etc. yet.
I think doing it by a session is easier. so just let me know on fb when you're there.
I'll try to leave it open over the weekend an on if needed

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on: March 24, 2017, 15:44
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Wasn't it about 2 weeks ago that I asked about Camtasia, and you said that getting a functioning version was very easy. I believe you even made fun of me because it was so easy. Something has changed?

You have my phone number now, just use whatsapp to reach me any time you don't see me on facebook. Unless I am sleeping, we'll be able to do something.

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Post Re: Blog of a walking dead man trying to get it up.
on: March 24, 2017, 22:40
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Quote from John Doe on March 24, 2017, 14:03

sure was fun to lose a stack to some dude named jenni :)

Play better imo. ;)

I don't even know your screen name, gives you an advantage, you should be stacking me, not losing stacks to me.

John Doe
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on: March 30, 2017, 14:42
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meh, sorry for not updating frequently.
I've got terrible pain in my back some how, so sitting for a while is not really an option.
I think i should be able to win some at 2 and 5 nl, though on stars I haven't been winning either for a while.

for now I can't think of much else then my back, but as soon as that fixes itself i'll get back to playing BC

John Doe
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on: April 7, 2017, 22:57
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So, tried to do some session stuff with KRC.
First on stars, this was fun, as the games are just soft.
Then the second time, I did get to play on black chip. But we clashed (again).

Apparently we have quite different expectations of these "sessions" and quite different ideas of how to improve.
Im not saying I know anything better, specially poker wise but for me right now its like this.

If I can play for about 3 weeks brake even on black chip I free a thousand dollars. But for now I'm far from playing brake even there. And I am NOT going to sit there lose for three weeks trying to free anything. I just don't need this money that bad. Its money, but I have a life. Spending still feels way better then losing. I could use the money but its not like my life depends on it or anything.

So I would like to ask questions. Talk (two way comminucation) about concepts and things in general. Why to do things and how we come to this why's.

I dont give a fuck about timing out this one hand or that one dollar pot.
If I dont improve greatly fast I'll abonden the whole thousand dollar and black chip can stick it where the light don't shine all together.

I'll never improve from feeling bad, little or small. There is no need to bark at me. And I don't feel that I'm improving a lot when some one keeps screeming what I have to do or should not do. Just let me time out on aces and laugh at me. I'll feel stupid enough.

But mean while we could discuss why I should bluff these spots more and how to maintain balance when we bluff these spots instead of other spots etc. So I can improve to where I can play profitably on my own and maybe even improve beyond soem level on my own.

I mean, if someone keeps telling me what to do every hand then over the course of hours I might get the hang of it, but in general I'll keep guessing as to why to do this or that, here or there. But I dont feel like I have time for that.

And O, one last thing. I will not spend more on any training site. I have never ever profited from any of that shit before. And since I haven't won a dollar for ages by now I'm certainly not gonna spend it on more waste of life before I actually gained anything with poker.

So for now I'm just not gonna play hand for a few days. We set this date for monday that should be a fun session. But since we classed again like this I don't even feel like I want to join.

If that thousand dollars is not gonna come then Fuck Poker. This should be fucking money.
For me a session should be like play some hands find a situation, questions pop up, and we discuss and I improve. And hopefully the other can improve a little on the way to.

But really fuck this one hand. If I improve I can just sit there andplay a thousand more hands. And I guaraantee I won't time out all the time when I can brake the level and just play for stacks. Not to improve but to grind.

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on: April 8, 2017, 01:34
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You're an idiot. "One hand"? You fucking timed out 50 times in about 200 hands. You don't value bet aces appropriately, I mean fuck, is it ever easier to value bet than when you have aces? You don't value bet anything appropriately, and you want to discuss overbet bluffing or some other higher level play. You can't overbet bluff effectively, if you don't know how to value bet appropriately. Why was it so easy for us to stack that fish in the first session when he suddenly overbet? It's because he doesn't do it right, because he doesn't value bet right. You're doing the same fucking thing. It isn't a matter of "how do I overbet bluff properly?", it's a matter of "how do I value bet properly?". You're asking the wrong fucking questions, and then you're pissed when I don't want to bother answering the wrong fucking questions. Too bad.

You want to solve problems using calculus while you're still making arithmetic errors. That isn't how it works. It isn't possible. You learn one step at a time, you can't learn step 14 if you still fuck up step 3. You think you know step 3, but to anyone who knows step 3, it's obvious that you don't know. Be stubborn all you want, it doesn't matter to me. It only hurts you. If you don't want to be yelled at, do what you're suppose to do. You didn't get yelled at the first 20 times you timed out, you got laughed at, then you got questioned, then you got yelled at. That's how I do it, that's always been how I do it, if you suddenly are too thin skinned to accept it, then don't accept it. It doesn't matter to me, it doesn't cost me anything, it only hurts you.

As for the training sites, I've never referred any training site to you before now. I also have never gotten any benefit at all from any training site, or any coach, or any video maker. Nothing, for years. But I've suddenly gotten quite a lot from Upswing. You could too. If you don't want to, then don't do it. I don't get anything out of it if you join Upswing. It doesn't matter to me at all. I advise you to sign up because you will benefit from it greatly. If you don't believe me, fine, don't join. I don't care. Again, you're not hurting me, you're only hurting you.

Over and over again we've searched for ways to improve at this game, now I've found a way that has improved my skills tremendously, and you want to argue shit from 5 years ago, 5 months ago, 5 weeks ago. I don't have time for that shit. If you want to master that 1/3 cbet line, then go join Nick Howards site and learn from him. He is far better than I am at both teaching and playing poker. Of course, his prices are also infinitely higher than mine. His prices are way higher than Upswing. But if you can afford paying him several hundred dollars an hour, for several hours, then I am sure he is very beneficial and worth every single penny to those who can afford him.

John Doe
Post Re: Blog of a walking dead man trying to get it up.
on: April 8, 2017, 08:38
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Have you even heard the two main questions that came up in me ??
I don't need to learn not to time out.

Really I don't know why you don't just relax, it's my money ;)
I know it's your time. But could just ask me to close the tables to talk about the questions.

But that doesn't help me getting at least some rakeback. Since my time is limitted as it is right now.

Q 1
So no 1/2, 2/3 etc but what else, how to approach. so when to bet ig and small and why.

Q 2
Following the engine we would be bluffing to much. So I tried to only bluff then, to maintain balance I thus let go of some obvious good spots to bluff.

So the first one would greatly help with value betting.
1- you now said I didn't get it right with 1/3 flop then 2/3 turn and 2/3 river. now you say there should be pot otr. But what ever it is old.
Well fine.
Then what and how to bet now, what do you suggest and why ??
Telling every hand how much will cost hours.
then, I allready told you I found it really hard to get value, since (I thought) you said these rules where written in stone to make them guessing. Which sounds obvious, but takes away the possibility to bet big.
Offcourse against huge callers I would bet bigger but knowing that it was a bad habbit.

Q2 Would greatly help my game overall. Since it'll help all my ranges overall I think.
So how to maintain some ballance when we bluff some c3 hands (We allready worked on taking out some hands that have showdown value, down to lower then I was used to), and are also betting good bluffing spots.
Aren't we bluffing way to much ??

John Doe
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on: April 8, 2017, 11:24
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Today ?? if you're there ?? one last try ?? I'll follow you and see what you'll teach me. I'll ask questions afterwards :)

Meh, you're probably playing mtt's

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Post Re: Blog of a walking dead man trying to get it up.
on: April 8, 2017, 12:00
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The 1/3, 2/3, 2/3 line was a "standard", but it doesn't work if you're going to employ a lot of overbetting, obviously. I abandoned this line months ago, in favor of overbetting. However, 1/3, 2/3, 2/3 was only "standard", it was never written in stone and even when we discussed it, we also discussed times to bet more on the turn and river, as well as times to bet less on the turn and river.

All of your questions have the same answer: it depends. But the thing is, you know what it depends on, you're just making everything more difficult than it needs to be by trying to think of everything separately. It's all one strategy. The times it is good to value bet big, are the same times it's good to bluff big.

As far as bluff frequency goes, it's impossible to answer as you've asked it. Because you're again trying to think of it separate from everything else. But you know the answer. What determines how often we must defend our range against an opponent in any given situation? The same thing happens to villain when we bet. So what determines how frequently we can bluff? I'll save you the headache of trying to figure this all out. We defend according pot odds. So must villain. The better the pot odds, the more he must defend. The worse the pot odds, the less he must defend. So what does this tell you about your bluff frequency? Save you some more time, the worse pot odds you offer to villain, the MORE you can bluff. So, the bigger your bet size, the more frequently you should be bluffing.

As for when is the best times to bluff, same shit different question. You already know the answer. When your range is stronger than villains range, it's a good time to bet, be it for value or as a bluff. Taking this to it's most simplistic example, since you started playing I've taught you to always raise first in, never limp. And always cbet Axx boards. Why is this? Why has this always worked? It worked 10 years ago, and it works today, why? It's because your rfi range crushes villains flatting range on Axx boards. This same concept can be applied to all boards, on all streets, in all situations. Whose range is the favorite on this board, in this situation? Going back to that most simple example, we often did not barrel turns on Axx flops, why? Because after villain calls the flop cbet, his range is suddenly significantly stronger. If we don't have a strong Ax or better hand, we're in trouble on the turn. It's all the same now, nothing has changed. You just need to think about what you already know. Stop looking for a "just do this every time" kind of strategy. That isn't how it works anymore, and it isn't ever going to work that way again.

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Post Re: Blog of a walking dead man trying to get it up.
on: April 8, 2017, 12:06
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Oh, and if you don't want to hear about timing out, and you don't need help not timing out, ...do I really need to explain this? Just don't fucking time out, and you'll never hear a word about timing out. Wtf? Yesterday was the first time I ever mentioned timing out to you. Yesterday was the first time I've ever seen you time out for no fucking reason whatsoever. Not once, not twice, not ten times, over and over and over and over again. And many more times you let the clock run to the last second so that you couldn't make a good decision or a good bet size, all you could do was hurry up and click something before timing out. You say this isn't a problem, ok, fine, I promise to not complain about you timing out, if you don't time out. If what you say is true, then it is ez game for us both.

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